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Posted by Justin Rebelo at 05:07 PM on May 15, 2008
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At last night's Rhez USA race, I had my race very severely affected by a driver who was showing very significant connectivity issues. All of the other cars on the course were smooth as butter for me, but this guy kept warping around on the track. I was much faster than him, but I lost serious time driving behind him for several laps because everywhere I would try to take off ahead of him, he would suddenly appear to slow himself way down going into the corner, which meant I had to get on the brakes in stupid places. Seconds later, however, he would warp ahead a measurable distance (suggesting he wasn't actually there in front of me in the corner but was lagging).

Do the race stewards watch for drivers who are showing bad warp like this and if they do, is there no action that can be taken? I'm all for making the races non-exclusive and trying to welcome everyone, but when the other drivers can't drive around you because of shit like that, I think it's a sim racing equivalent to having an unsafe car on the track and he should either be pulled from the race or explicitly asked to allow faster cars through.

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Posted by Tim McArthur at 07:07 PM on May 15, 2008
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Stewards do ask serious warp drivers to park it, but obviously what is warping to one person may not be warping to another.

Posted by Justin Rebelo at 07:28 PM on May 15, 2008
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I havent checked my replay, but do replays show it the way it happens in race or is it different? I should download the server replay to see what it looks like. Thanks. I just wasn't sure I'd read a rule about that.

Posted by Kurt Messick at 07:36 PM on May 15, 2008
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A driver should report warping when it is seen so that a race stewart can monitor it. A steward can't blackflag a car if he is not aware it is warping.

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Posted by Dennis Morissette at 07:38 PM on May 15, 2008
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Warping racers can make things very tough on anybody nearby on track. Maybe we could hotkey a whisper chat message to the stewards to get their attention when we run into this, since they obviously can't be watching everything at once and may not notice a warp problem until after someones race is ruined.

Posted by Jonty Couples at 08:13 PM on May 15, 2008
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The other tricky thing is that sometimes it's a downstream issue. A recent race I saw no-one at the start and pulled off after the first corner. But the server replay happily showed me starting mongst the others. That would be hard to spot.

It think it can only fall under 'driver etiquette'.

Posted by Doug Dezan at 08:32 PM on May 15, 2008
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I don't think it's right to flag a warp connection. Like Tim says he may lag for you but not for me.

The internet isn't perfect.

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Posted by Kent Welker at 09:03 PM on May 15, 2008
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Tough call for sure and letting the steward know means nothing since the warping may not affect the steward.

Not to be negative Justin but the problem may vary well be your connection, seems your last F1 race ended in a disco.

Regardless, warping cars is always a tough issue since a warping car may only be noticed by 1 or 2 others in any event.

Posted by Justin Rebelo at 10:18 PM on May 15, 2008
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I am confident that my connection isn't the issue. As I said, all the other cars were smooth as anything and I rarely ever see warping (other people saw him warping in this race as well) and my last F1 race didn't end in a disconnect, it ended from a full game lockup. It just froze dead. I have since completely formatted and reinstalled my whole system and things are tip top since before this recent race.

I understand what you're saying and it's fair to suggest it, but as I said, other people saw it, not just me. And I have a solid 10mbit connection which is extremely reliable. I know it's hard for the stewards if they don't have a reason to follow the car warping, but I don't have any way to suggest it to them as I choose not to use teamspeak while in a race. I don't know how whispering works, but if it was possible to say something privately to a steward to just have them check out your section of the track, that would be nice.

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Posted by Dennis Morissette at 10:55 PM on May 15, 2008
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If a racer sees warping, and the steward sees the warping, than its a problem thats obviously not just the racers and maybe the steward can do something about it, so I don't see the harm in informing them. If the problems on your end then the steward would be able to tell you about that as well.

It may be worth trying, to whisper in rfactor type /w (name) message in the chat box. I'm sure its possible to hotkey a whisper, maybe something like "/w Event Steward Vehicle warping in my vicinity, please have a look."