I'm so frustrated.
Since the third race i'm driving with a 90 kilos weight penalty.
I think I dont understand the weight penalty rules.

Last race i finish down the order and i still have 90 kilos on my back. why?

I had a boring race the last 2 events without any chance of competition and im not happy with it.

Thx for explanation in advance.

I had 90kg's In the NAGT EURO event as well, which wasn't too bad. But I had 115kg in the Civic league and that was just way too much.
The race before that I had 90kg's which slowed me down 3 seconds !!! My car was useless, no acceleration, top speed, braking or cornering performance, which resulted in a boring race and it felt like a lamb to the slaughter. Hence I didn't participate in the 115kg event.

I don't mind weightpenalties, but they shouldn't be the same for all the mods. 90 Kg in a Mustang or Civic is a lot different.

The rating based penalties are quite smart, but the successbalast could be beter IMO when it's based on results, and not leaguestandings. Because now it's probably best to not participate for the first few races, let others build up weight, then join and take the lead in the last race.

Just my 2 cents :)

I was hounded with some dodgy weights in the Skoda championship last season, some were as heavy as 90kg and I still won the championship.

If you have a read through the weights, you'll see how it's the Underdog Racing League. There are a few guys who don't usually win, doing so.

You're a fast guy Daniel, and while I do agree with the weight penalties the URL imposes, I do believe that sometimes they can be a little too much and should be adjusted for specific series.

My two cents.... The league is called Underdog Racing League. Some guys never get a chance to run up front or compete for a championship, because the "Alien" drivers show up and spank everyone. Its a perfect way for guys to be able to race for wins, all while learning the mods, car set up, and driving. There are tons of other series out there that people can go race, and have Eduardo, Conor, etc... spank you every time........

I implemented penalties in URL events to equalize the fields, just as in many real world series. The goal is to keep the racing close and hopefully avoid the constant checking out of the leaders and the domination of every series by one or two drivers (I think you can come up with an example).

There are two problems. One, I have no idea how the weight will affect a car. I try to adjust based on the car but you never know. I used a lighter penalty system on the Civics for this reason. The second problem is that a lot of the guys that are getting weight penalties just aren't being slowed down. I get 20 or 30 Kg on my car and it throws me off but you put three times that on another driver to have the same effect. This causes drivers to rack up big weight penalties and then it really slows them down to the point where it's like dragging an anchor.

As for your 90 Kg. You had earned 90 Kg for the Watkins Glen race based on your performance in the first two races and the fact you were first in points. You maintained your first place standing even with the DNF so you had 40 Kg for Melbourne already.

Had you just finished last at Watkins Glen and not DNF'd then you would have received a 50% weight reduction. But a DNF does not count toward weight reduction and so you carried your rewards weight forward to Melbourne as well.

You will lose some weight for the next race but you are still 2nd in points so there will still be some.

Thanks Brian. You hit the nail on the head.

Daniel and Jeff. The idea is that the URL is an equal opportunity chapter. We promote equal racing, much like they do in the Speed GT and Touring Car, BTC and WTC Championships. However, we don't have the luxury of using the restrictions that those series' use to equalize cars drivers and teams. We only have Rewards and Rank Weight Penalty to give slower, lesser skilled drivers a chance to compete with drivers such as yourselves.

Originally this chapter was intended to be a place where drivers with lower rank (below 6) and little experience could go to race and learn what its like to run up front. We decided to allow drivers with a rank higher than 6 to run with Rank Weight to promote fairness for the slower drivers to run with the faster drivers. WHEN faster drivers continue to do well, Rewards Weight is added until the slower drivers can run and compete door to door with driver such as yourselves.

This is an Equalizing Chapter. If you are carrying 90 kgs and you are still running up front, I'm not sure what the problem is. If you are carrying that much weight and are having trouble running up front, then challenge yourself to drive more fluidly OR think about the Championship instead. You don't have to win every race to win a championship. All you have to do is finish well/up front.

I was given 30kg to plonk on my Volvo last night. My best lap before the weight was a 2:01.8 and with 30kg, I managed a 2:01.7 so I don't know if that was just the desire to beat my time with weight added, or it helped in some way.

Seems Michael beat me to the post. :)

I understand the reason behind the weights and agree with them. The only reason I race is for fun, not for the win. So a car that is undriveable (litterally) due to the weight, than it's no fun for me. I don't care about the championship, I want battles on track, not on paper.
So when the weight became so much in the Civics, that took away the fun for me.

In the NAGT the weight doesn't ruin the car a lot, which equals people out, but also remains the possibility for good fun racing.

So to make things clear, it's not that I disagree with the weights, it's just that as soon as it takes away the fun of racing (battles on track) than I don't participate. Shame, as I enjoyed the race at Road Atlanta in the Civics, 3 and 4 way battles into the last corner :D .

I think the DNF should ADD a 100% weight reduction.
Its so dissapointing have a DNF for any reason (even most on a disco) and you still carry all that wight to the next event. Result you lost all points because of the DNF and still need to carry the same penalty as if you had finish on the TOP3??? lol i cant figure the standarts but anyway...

I had the DNF on Glen because a disco when i was running 6 or 8. and i still carry all the weight to the next race.

This was not my first race with my CAddy at Melbore and diferent from Jeffrey i'm not a Alien and 90 kilos are 3 times more than 30KG Lian.
You can check that my laptimes are 2 secs off my pace with a better setup.

I like the weight penalty rule. But this DNF no reduce penalti is something not well planned to be kind. Ok if the driver don't race , he still carry the same weight.
But you are commited with the series go racing and get a DNF and is penalized to not get any points plus still carry the same weight as race WIN. I cant get it really.. but the fact is this really throw any of my series championship chances away. Because i lost those points at Glen driving a tank for 35 mins and the disco, and now more 60 mins driving a tank.

I wasnt complaining about any rule i just asked why I still gad 90 KG if i DNF the race prior,
But if you said you hit the nail on the head i think you bumped your finger on the process.
Because if you use you reasoning you see that this DNF no reduce penalty is badly though.
Like i said prior if the guy don't race ok he keep his penalty but you go racing get a DNF and still have the penalty is just awkward

MATT
"We promote equal racing, much like they do in the Speed GT and Touring Car, BTC and WTC Championships. However, we don't have the luxury of using the restrictions that those series' use to equalize cars drivers and teams. We only have Rewards and Rank Weight Penalty to give slower, lesser skilled drivers a chance to compete with drivers such as yourselves."

No equality or equal racing on my point of view if you may respect my opinion(my case). Even more with people cherry picking cars each race.

Congratulations on your selective judgment.

PS: The caddy is already dificult to drive, try add 90 unbalanced kilos and go for a ride. You will be all over the place just like me at Glenn and today at Melboure.